My friends that race masters are showing up on rides with brand new Venges, Madones, SuperSixes... And the newness is pretty cool (and great motivation). Nice to see masters racing so well supported with bikes fom the future.. and these guys train so hard (huge respect). And I think... shoot, I want a new bike too. I look at my 2008 Vagen... it gets ridden in some shape or form nearly every morning (no matter what it doesnt love me back.. so, days are skipped when the woman is up for hanging out). The paint isn't even chipped in any real way. It looks newish. It feels amazing. I have love with it. And I'd only want another one for my next bike. I'm so screwed with this thing... 3 or 4 years old and we're just really still playing with each other.